- both sides Battle of the Nile,
- Copenhagen British,
- Copenhagen Danish,
- Trafalgar British,
- Trafalgar Allies.
After some thinking, I decided to go for the Trafalgar British.
PACKING. the packing was about 50 feet [it seemed] of bubble wrap and could've brought fine china from the UK safely - the package was one blister with some foam [the usual] with all the ships in it. Sound a bit dicey? Well, these ships are as durable as the real thing!
CONTENTS. My package was:
7 x NAP12, 1st / 2nd Rate
17 x NAP13, 3rd Rate
3 x NAP14, small 3rd Rate
4 x NAP15, Large Frigate
31 Total ships
Unfortunately, I somehow missed separating out the 3 "Small 3rd Rate" shpis, and they are with in the middle group below [quite hard to tell apart, really].
Let's face it - this is a lot of ship for the money! In essence, it is 1/2 of Trafalgar - and most rules have options for small ship actions of a couple per side, or per player, so one could be finished with all Age of Sail purchases in one go here, and have everything from single-ship combat to good-sized squadrons of 15-16 ships!
THE GOODS. And below is what you've been awaiting, the closeup:
To left, NAP12 1/2 Rate. To right, NAP15 Large Frigate. In the center is a 3rd Rate of some sort. The metal between the fore and main masts is an identification streamer / flag, that between the main and mizzen is a bit of flash. The pegs are for the included bases.
Note that even with a casual pic, you can see lots of little details, from the gunports to the ratlines, to the stern decorations, and these ships are...ONE INCH LONG! AMAZING!!!
comparison shots with vessel drawings from "Warfare in the Age of Sail" by B Ireland.
I think the proportions on the sculpts compare quite well - to these drawings, anyway.
Close comparison of 1st / 2nd Rate and diagram
Close pic of 3rd Rate 2-decker
Finally, the "large frigate" compared to diagram.
Overall, I think these ships capture the feel quite well, with good lines. My photography and the lighting isn't ideal, but I hope you can see how they look - remember, they're only one inch long, so of course they are more intended for squadrons together on the table.
Same three ships, stern view.
Same three ships, bow view - nice lines, you can see the bowsprit coming at you.
For comparison, below are my Wooden Ships and Iron Men counters, from the classic [and elderly, mine is a 1982 second edition] Avalon Hill board game. The counters are an inch by a 1/2 inch. Note that the bases are nearly the identical size. The holes are for the pegs, but one can certainly not use the bases at all. This is very convenient - I will most likely not use the bases as I'm thinking of using plexiglass instead so the ships always match the cloth.
Note how the ratlines provide additional stability to the masts without weighing down the sculpt visually. They are in fact solid, but I hope to hide that somewhat with the painting, putting that "into shadow" or something. Pic shows off the "full sail" of these British ships, which are clearly working to close in on the Allied Fleet during the chase preceding the battle. Interestingly, the Allied ships have a different sail setting.
And below, a 1.5" hex map from Chessex. Nice fit, the ships look quite natural if a bit close together - they should really be a hex or two apart - a ship length or two.
Same, lower view. Note that the AH counters match the miniatures.
And here they are in Line Ahead, coming straight at you! Obviously, this upset the photographer and he failed to focus properly.
And below is the same on the WS&IM hex map. These ships just fit into the game "as-is" which just can't be a coincidence. Surely the sculptor has this game...? Below them are the same size counters from Avalanche Press' "1898" to show you what pre-dreadnoughts look like next to these lovelies - they look quite flat!
Overall, I give Forged in Battle:
- Customer service, packaging and shipping, A+
- Sculpting, sturdiness, proportions, A
- completeness of line, price, A++
- handiness and usefulness in games from convention to small table, A+
OVERALL RATING = A+
"Don't be stupid be a schmarty - Come and join the Forged in Battle Party!"
If you're looking for a great deal on sturdy ships with lots of visual appeal, excellent proportions at a great price, look no further. 37 years of gaming, these are some of the best thought out and executed sculpts I've ever seen. The "battle packaging" is great and will save newbies time and trouble with gathering models. And of course, the price...!!!
Future thoughts. well, obviously I'm going to get more. Certainly I want some variety in sail setting, ship, type, etc, so I'm seriously checking out the British fleet at Copenhagen, as well as the Danish. But, frankly, my future intent is to own ALL of these blisters!
this is a great review and you got me thinking i need a new game....
ReplyDeleteThanks for the encouragement, Johnny A.
ReplyDeleteYeah, these little guys are perfect for fleet size games where a player commands a squadron of several ships each. I'm working out my own adaptation of Portable Naval Wargame, but may also try War Artisan's "Captains Bold" with his "Admirals" rules, both sets are very interesting in design.
Other thoughts are classic WS & IM, and considering adapting one of David Manley's fast-play games to it, e.g. Dahlgren and Columbiad. I like the fast-play system in Splendid Little War and think it would work just fine for an Age of Sail game.
SUPERB REVIEW Thank you. i have some rather rough 1/3000 ships from long ago - i think FIF will make excellent replacements :)
ReplyDeletePost some painted one, won't you? You've already induced me to buy the Trafalgar fleets and a few extras, but I want to compare the finished products.
ReplyDeleteFinish my Trafalgar fleets yesterday; they look pretty good, even with my less-than-renaissance brushwork.
ReplyDeleteHey FK, I've been running around with my other blogs and game projects, and the naval got put aside for a bit unfortunately. If you have a blog / link with the pics, post the e-dress here! If you don't have anything, then LMK and send pics to my gaming gmail which is brasidas19004 and I will post them in a follow-up or edit this post!
ReplyDeleteWe'll be trying them out tomorrow; I'll send some piccies.
ReplyDeleteDone.
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