tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post2061858819787516235..comments2024-02-19T07:45:52.119-08:00Comments on RED IN THE MORNING...: Pre-dreadnought Project, p.1 - Start, ship orderQueen Catherinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11505373788741956434noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-12198067372974454022018-05-09T09:33:27.310-07:002018-05-09T09:33:27.310-07:00The pre-dread rules are hexes - just did a playtes...The pre-dread rules are hexes - just did a playtest today, will be posting ASAP. But to summarize, I thought they are 80% there as a set of basic rules [i.e. no weather, morale, etc].<br /><br />They are free, 1-page rules [OK, 2 pages but the second is the hex diagram of the shooting arcs!] so it's not a painful or time-consuming effort, and there are at least TWO distinct, interesting mechanics:<br />1) Gun range, type, hitting, are all ONE dice roll,<br />2) shooting precedes movement.<br />More on this soon...Queen Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505373788741956434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-45700456774657149722018-05-08T18:39:12.704-07:002018-05-08T18:39:12.704-07:00I have yet to use any of David's rules, but he...I have yet to use any of David's rules, but he seems to have a knack for simplifying complicated systems and making it gameable.<br /><br />I believe that there is another version of the Portable Wargame rules being worked on - I am watching with interest but I am not too sure about grids. El Gregohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15255734917358886698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-32926044539842833742018-05-07T12:20:11.982-07:002018-05-07T12:20:11.982-07:00Actually, re-read these, and am thinking they are ...Actually, re-read these, and am thinking they are a good basis for bigger actions where gunnery is less important than squadron maneuvering and command decisions for ships:<br />http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~warden/portable_wargame/<br />under downloads, there's a pre-dread naval game.Queen Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505373788741956434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-67327326354150156572018-05-05T15:19:16.383-07:002018-05-05T15:19:16.383-07:00I have to admit - greedy for the larger ships, and...I have to admit - greedy for the larger ships, and 1/1800 or 1/1500 both are appealing for the size and details. Really need to see them up close and personal.<br /><br />What do you think of Long Face Games, and David Manley?<br /><br />My take - thus far - on Avalanche Press and Ironclads & Ether Flyers is that they both take a strategic view of naval operations, which is very correct. I've played the AP rules [see previous posts] and find them a bit clunky at times but serviceable. I&EF I haven't played but plan to do so with my AP counters. Of course, I already have some thoughts on changes for both rules!<br /><br />I firmly believe in the operational / strategic use of fleets, and that's why my next planned post is on "Cactus Air Force", which looks good for my favorite WWII area of interest, the Solomon Islands campaign.Queen Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505373788741956434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-76273488697005629512018-05-03T19:12:17.142-07:002018-05-03T19:12:17.142-07:00I went with the plastic ships in 1/1800 scale. I ...I went with the plastic ships in 1/1800 scale. I had a few of the 1/3000 metal ships but they were, well, lost...<br /><br />The unconventional designs are a major plus for me as well.<br /><br />I am not certain on rules yet - part of the reason I am watching you blaze a trail :) I do have some of Mr. Manley's (Long Face Games) rules. Chadwick's rules are interesting; I had not thought about them and I should have a copy somewhere.El Gregohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15255734917358886698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-36842067098038353372018-04-30T13:48:01.729-07:002018-04-30T13:48:01.729-07:00did you go for the last of the metal like me, or a...did you go for the last of the metal like me, or are you going with the plastics? And in what scale?<br /><br />I grabbed these in part b/c I've a pal who has large Russian and Japanese fleets in metal 1/3000, so I figured I could use them, too.<br /><br />But basically, I just couldn't resist the odd and interesting ships - it's so "un-orderly", and it makes me interested in the ironclad era, also.<br /><br />I'll have to draw the line somewhere!<br /><br />What rules are you going to use? I pondering the WTJ rules, the DeWitt rules, adapting Avalanche Press rules, and "Ironclads and Ether Flyers" by Frank Chadwick.Queen Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505373788741956434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6031540786106165779.post-50796368400932175352018-04-28T14:51:57.099-07:002018-04-28T14:51:57.099-07:00I am looking forward on how you do with this - I a...I am looking forward on how you do with this - I am awaiting an order of pre-dreadnoughts from WTJ myself.<br /><br />Greg<br />El Gregohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15255734917358886698noreply@blogger.com